"She married a human, actually. So I'd say she totally gets us better than most. Though… her husband did try to kill us a few times, so I dunno if he was what you'd call a shining example of humanity."

He says that last part with a dry flatness to it, but there's conflict there too. He has some complicated feelings about Roderick. A figure that was always a source of pain and contention for them, in the end turned out to be a grieving father in denial of what he'd helped happen to his little girl. Then he hums, looking up at the moon as he continues to take the lion up in a slow spiral upwards.

"Why would I judge? I listen to all kinds of music, Shakira's totally on my most frequently played," he says it easily and with absolutely no shame or concern about it, then he heaves a breath and adds after a moment, "Besides, I think that sounds pretty perfect for this."